Showing posts with label police. Show all posts
Showing posts with label police. Show all posts

Thursday, November 17, 2016

NYCERS, Is This Really a Ponzi Scheme?

In the NYCERS FY-2015 CAFR on page 189 you will find the updated Solvency Test issued by the NYCERS actuary.

The last year listed on the chart is 2013. The actuary has always been slow in doing his/her work. On the last line there are several amounts:

  1. $7.6B = the total contributions made by active workers plus the 5% interest they have earned on their money.
  2. $36.2B = the pension liability for all current retirees (7% assumed interest rate)
  3. $30.6B = the employer financed pension liability for all active workers (7% assumed interest rate)
  4. $47.3B = the actuarial value of NYCERS assets

What the City/Employers Actually Pay for Active Workers

Workers are currently contributing approximately 3.6% of payroll into NYCERS. In FY-2015, workers contributed $457.1M to NYCERS and the covered payroll was $12.7B.

For argument sake let us assume the city and the other employers are contributing $3 for each $1 that the workers are contibuting. That would be 10.8% of payroll. Lets assume that the $3 earn the same conservative 5% that worker's $1 earns. That would mean that there should be at least $22.8B along with the $7.6B set aside for the active workers. That would be $22.8B to cover a $30.6B liability. Wrong!

Faking It

If you go back to the last line in the chart, you will see that the actuary is claiming that both the liability for all current retirees, $36.2B, and the workers contributions, $7.6B, are 100% funded. She is also valuing NYCERS's assets at $47.3B.

So when you start with $47.3B and you subtract $36.2B and $7.6B, you are left with only $3.5B. That is $3.5B to cover a $30.6B liability for active workers. This is a truly frightening conclusion.

The Other City Pension Funds

The story only gets worse. The Police Pension Fund is in the same shape as NYCERS with only $2.3B to cover a $17.9B liability for working police officers (page 151 of the FY-2015 NYPPF CAFR).

Teachers and the Fire Funds are in totally worse shape. The Fire Pension Fund has NO money to cover a $5.2B liability for working firefighters and only $8.0B to cover a $10.5B liability for current retired firefighters (page 151 of the FDNYPF FY-2015 CAFR).

Teachers with over a 100,000 working teachers has NO assets to cover their $18.6B pension liability and only $31.9B to cover the $37.5B pension liability for retired teachers (page 120 of the NYC-TRS FY-2015 CADR).

This grim picture is based on the unrealistic 7% assumed interest rate assumption. You don't want to do the arithmetic for a lower interest rate assumption. Just going from 7% to 6% at NYCERS increases the unfunded liability from $20.2B to $28.0B (page 114 of NYCERS FY-2016 CAFR)

What is Really Going On

Of course, there is one major flaw. The current retirees benefits are not fully funded. Most of the pension contributions the city and the other employers are making each year are catch up payments covering pensions being paid to current retirees.

The city and other employers paid $3.4B to NYCERS in FY-2016. The workers paid $485.5M. Three times what the workers paid is $1.5B. Under our 3 for 1 scenario it is reasonable to conclude that $1.9B went to cover retirees benefits not current workers. This is actually a Ponzi scheme and not an actuarially funded pension plan. It is a lot like the Social Security benefit system.

What is actually going on is that the city and other employers are trying to pay two different pension bills each year. One for active workers and the other for former workers who are now collecting pensions from NYCERS. You can just imagine the political nightmare this is. Part of the ongoing pension funding issue is not just about pensions for current workers. It is the huge mass of current retirees whose benefits the city did not properly secure when the workers retired.

How did this happen?

When a worker retires, the actuary can very accurately compute the cost of the benefit. She, however, can be very prudent or a total screw up. You know where this going. A 62 year old retiree is going to get a pension of $40,000 a year for the rest of his/her life. The actuary can say that $400,000 will cover this benefit or she can say that $520,000 will cover the cost.

Now if the fund hasn't even put aside the $400,000, you can imagine how they feel about the $520,000 cost figure. In either case there is going to be catch up, even if the fund is hitting its interest targets. Needless to say pension funds are not known for hitting their interest targets

One thing that NYCERS active workers should immediately demand is that their annual statement be expanded to include how much the city or their employer have contributed on their behalf during the year for their future pension benefit. The statement should also include an opening balance of employer contributions and how those assets performed during the year. And don't let anyone tell you it can't be done.

Tuesday, November 3, 2015

Bad Year for the NYC Pension Funds - FY-2015 - Investment Fees and Performance

The Comptroller released the NYC FY-2015 Comprehensive Annual Financial Report (CAFR) on Friday, October 30, 2015. The following are some points from the press release:

The City pension systems earned $4.746 billion in net investment income in FY15 and paid benefits totaling $13.4 billion during FY15. Employer and employee contributions to the City pension systems were $10.0 billion and $1.8 billion, respectively;

The City pension systems paid investment expenses totaling $708.9 million in FY15, an increase over FY14 that primarily reflects increased assets under management and more comprehensive fee disclosure and reporting;

These numbers are accurate but they are presented in a deceptive way.

The five funds received $1.94B in interest payments and $2.66B in dividends during 2015. They also earned $73M in securities lending income. That adds up to $4.67B. It does not take much skill to collect interest and dividend payments. It definitely does not take $708.9M in fees, a $183.0M increase from last year.

Listed below are the fees (pension funds only) for the last 14 years. You can see from the numbers that the "increased assets under management" comment is not valid. Of course previous reported fees may be inaccurate but that's not what "more comprehensive" means. I have a strong feeling that the Comptroller's office is in shambles when it comes to accurate records of the payment of investment fees.

  • Year: -- Fees ---- Assets
  • 2015: $705.0M ($145.7B)
  • 2014: $522.0M ($144.5B)
  • 2013: $472.5M ($124.8B)
  • 2012: $370.3M ($111.3B)
  • 2011: $395.7M ($111.0B)
  • 2010: $426.8M ($90.0B)
  • 2009: $339.3M ($79.5B)
  • 2008: $310.2M ($101.9B)
  • 2007: $262.0M ($110.9B)
  • 2006: $192.7M ($96.0B)
  • 2005: $158.2M ($90.6B)
  • 2004: $131.6M ($86.5B)
  • 2003: $ 96.7M ($78.1B)
  • 2002: $101.9M ($80.7B)

On July 30, 2015, P&I reported that the Comptroller estimated that the city pension funds had a 3.3% rate of return for FY-2015. Of that amount 3.1% is due to interest and dividends paid to the pension funds.

Based on the details in the CAFR, the total pension assets for the five funds increased only 0.198% in FY-2015. In addition, this miserable number is based on unreliable asset values for private equity, real estate, and hedge fund classes. Note that two of the funds have avoided getting sucked into the hedge fund swamp.

The opening balance for the city pension funds (no TDA and no VSF) was $144.5B. The closing balance was $145.7B. With a $0.9B positive cash flow you get a 0.198% increase in asset value.

The other bruising fact in the city's CAFR, along with the $183M increase in fees, is the $1.294B that was skimmed off from the TRS & BERS pension funds to the TRS & BERS TDA funds and the $672M that was skimmed off to the VSF funds.

In FY-2015, the S&P 500 index rose 5.2% (from 1960.23 to 2063.11). NYCERS reported a 1.88% net of fee return on its structured fixed income class (Treasures, Corporates, & Mortgage Backed Securities) with a benchmark of 2.08%. With the 70%/30% asset allocation that the funds are currently using, the projected increase in asset value for FY-2015 could easily have been 4.24%, not 0.198%. That would have been a $150.95B closing balance instead of $145.67B.

That is $5B in one year. This why investment decisions are so important. The state implements Tier 6 and the trustees blow it all on bad investments.

All five of the pension funds had a decease in their funding status in FY-2015. The levels weren't great to start with. Here is the bad news.

  • NYCERS went from 75.32% to 73.13%.
  • TRS went from 71.79% to 68.04%.
  • BERS went from 78.60% to 75.33%.
  • Police went from 74.44% to 73.85%.
  • Fire went from 63.78% to 62.79%.

Here are the accounting numbers for the five city pension funds:

Money Coming In for FY-2015

(in millions)Five FundsNYCERS TRS BERS Police Fire
employee contributions $1,015.0 $467.1 $158.6 $39.6 $241.1 $108.6
employer contributions $9,986.8 $3,160.3 $3,270.0 $258.1 $2,309.6 $988.8
other contributions$55.5 $55.5
interest $1,939.5 $635.7 $758.5 $36.9 $392.8 $115.6
dividends $2,661.8 $795.3 $889.2 $46.2 $703.7 $227.4
SL income $72.5 $26.5 $20.3 $2.7 $18.0 $5.0
other ($64.9) $4.1 $0.3 ($115.1) $4.6 $41.2
Cash-in $15,666.2 $5,089.0 $5,152.4 $268.4 $3,669.8 $1,486.6

Money Going Out for FY-2015

(in millions)Five FundsNYCERS TRS BERS Police Fire
Benefits $11,994.1 $4,235.6 $4,024.3 $223.2 $2,360.5 $1,150.5
Transfers from TRS & BERS to TDA$1,294.0 $0.0 $1,249.0 $45.0 $0.0 $0.0
Payments to VSF * $12.2 $11.9 $0.0 $0.0 $0.3 $0.0
Transfers (Pension to VSF) * $660.0 $30.0 $0.0 $0.0 $590.0 $40.0
Investment expenses * $705.0 $231.8 $203.0 $10.1 $192.1 $68.0
Admin expenses * $141.9 $54.6 $58.4 $11.0 $17.9 $0.0
other $7.1 $7.1 $0.0 $0.0$0.0 $0.0
Cash-out * $14,814.3 $4,571.5 $5,534.7 $289.3 $3,160.8 $1,258.5
*
Net Cash * $851.9 $517.5 ($382.3) ($20.9) $509.0 $228.1

Closing Balances & Asset Increases for FY-2015

(in millions)Five FundsNYCERS TRS BERS Police Fire
Open Bal: $144,538.0 $54,422.0 $44,490.0 $3,279.3 $31,750.9 $10,595.8
Close Bal $145,674.8 $54,889.3 $44,254.7 $3,359.8 $32,356.0 $10,815.0
Net Change $1,136.80 $467.30 ($235.30) $80.50 $605.10 $219.20
Cash Flow: $851.9 $517.5 ($382.3) ($20.9) $509.0 $228.1
Open Bal Adj:$144,538.0 $54,422.0 $44,107.7 $3,258.4 $31,750.9 $10,595.8
Close Bal Adj:$144,823.4 $54,371.8 $44,254.7 $3,359.8 $31,847.0 $10,586.9
Net Change Adj:$285.4 ($50.2) $147.0 $101.4 $96.1 ($8.9)
Rate of Asset Increase: 0.197% -0.092% 0.333% 3.112% 0.303% -0.084%

Monday, September 16, 2013

Payroll & Pension - Police & Fire - FY-2014

In its FY-2014 Adopted Budget, NYC has funded

  • 36,164 police officers with a payroll of $3,676.5M and pension cost of $2,320.9M
  • 10,910 fire fighters with a payroll of $1,257.5M and a pension cost of $960.7M.
  • 114,404 teachers with a payroll of $8,987.5M and a pension cost of $2,917.0M
  • 111,642 general workers with a payroll of $8,424.5M and a pension cost of $1.934.0M

Unfortunately, this is the heart of the pension issue for NYC. For every dollar the city pays to a police officer, it is paying 63 cents to the police pension fund and for every dollar it pays to a fire fighter, it pays 76 cents to the fire pension fund.

This is compared to the 33 cents that the city is paying to the teachers pension fund for every dollar it pays to a teacher. Make no mistake, 33 cents is also way out of line but it is far from the insane levels for police and fire.

In addition to the usual investment and funding mistakes the police and fire pension funds have enormous disability burdens, especially the fire fund.

There needs to be a public policy decision made about what is the acceptable pension cost percentage for emergency service employees, teachers, and general government workers. This is the hard point of pension reform.

From calculations ( police , teachers ) that I have done, it appears that for new Tier 6 members (post 4/1/2012) the city will have to make annual pension contributions of 6% of pay for teachers and general workers and 29% of pay for police officers and fire fighters (see note below). Are these percentages acceptable to the voters of NYC?

It is not clear how the disability issue will play out in Tier 6. The benefits are now lower for police and fire. We will have to see if the frequency drops. This is as much a management problem as a pension problem.

Note:
I used an annual salary increase assumption of 2.5% for teacher/general workers and 5% for police and fire. I used a 5.5% pre-retirement assumed rate of return and a 5% post-retirement return. This also assumes that the actuary directs the city to contribute at least 6% and 26% every year and that the trustees adopt an investment policy that earns a 5.5% annual rate of return, a reasonable target.
I've done some research on police salaries and 7% is a more realistic salary increase rate. This increases the employer contribution rate (Tier 6) to 29%

Wednesday, July 31, 2013

FYI: New York City Labor Costs in FY-2014

Disclaimer: All of the figures listed below come from the NYC OMB web site and the NYS Financial Control Board.

Sometimes the actual hard numbers tell their own story. New York City has budgeted $38.367M ($38+B) for personnel costs in FY-2014. The city will employee 273,120 people during the year.

The fringe costs total $16,021M which leaves $22,346M for actual paychecks. The fringe costs are detailed below:

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NYC Personnel Costs for FY-2014

Category General Dept. of Education Retirees – DOE CUNY Cultural Affairs Totals
Social Security Taxes $ 945,377,286 $ 774,704,532 na $25,186,254 $1,745,268,072
Health Insurance Premiums $2,385,907,769 $1,675,842,974 $ 370,353,278 $40,943,606 $1,503,728 $4,474,551,355
Supplemental Welfare Funds $ 549,405,510 $ 380,688,742 $ 133,715,336$15,805,711 $1,079,615,299
Workers Compensation $ 205,196,474 $ 40,142,415 $1,843,985 $247,182,874
Unemployment Insurance $ 28,256,171 $ 37,760,989 $539,682 $66,556,842
Workers Comp - Other $56,200,000 $56,200,000
Disability Insurance $611,303 $611,303
Annuity Fund Payment $33,812,860 $33,812,860
Non-city Pensions $78,415,014 $78,415,014
City Non Actuarial Pensions $57,667,273 $57,667,273
City Actuarial Pensions $8,180,622,400 $8,180,622,400

Note: Health insurance premiums cover active workers, retiree under age 65, and retirees over age 65. The union welfare funds, administered by the unions, provide added fringe benefits to members of the participating unions. Both of these items need detailed analysis. I think that the city is not getting its money's worth in these areas. In response to the Emblem Health take over of HIP/GHI in 2008, the city produced a very rational argument against the takeover and the city seems to be aware that there is a fundamental problem with the system. There are very entrenched special interests connected with health insurance and welfare funds. (Note: The city runs the welfare fund for city managers.)

City Actuarial Pension Systems

  • $2,917.0M (TRS)
  • $1,728.1M (NYCERS)
  • $ 205.9M (BERS)
  • $2,320.9M (Police)
  • $ 960.7M (Fire)

Note: Of the $8,132.6M amount, $357.2M is needed to replace investment fees paid in FY-2012 and $106.8M is needed to replace administrative expenses incurred in FY-2012. The city only incurs 55% of NYCERS investment and administrative costs. NYCERS covers other participating employers, like the Transit Authority.

Friday, May 10, 2013

When Will the City Wake Up?

About a month ago I wrote about NYCERS's miserable investment performance over the last 13 years in contrast to a simple index(stocks)/core(bonds) strategy. It was so bad that I wondered how the other city pension funds did. So I did a comparable analysis of the performance of TRS and the Police Pension Fund, the two other large systems. You can check the detailed spreadsheets for NYCERS , TRS , and Police with the highligthed links.

TRS and Police did almost as bad as NYCERS as seen in the first table below. The analysis, however, did surface an issue when looking at the three systems together. They had significantly different income flows over the 13 year period. NYCERS & TRS had negative income flows, while Police had a positive income flow.

This positive flow hides the poor investment performance for Police. In contrast, TRS's large negative flow makes its investment performance look worse than it really is.

The last column in the first table shows the new 7% pension liability amount computed by the NYCERS/TRS actuary.

If the investment strategy and the funding (see table 2) were better, NYCERS and TRS would be in great shape, even without the benefit of the new Tier 6 benefit limits. Police has a much deeper problem but upgrading the investment strategy would be a big step forward in getting the problem under control.

NYCERS - TRS - Police Pension Fund Investment Performance: 2000 - 2012

System Closing Balance Closing Balance Income Flow Closing Balance Actuarial Liability
**** Actual Index/Core 2000-2012 Zero Income Flow 2012
Index/Core (7%)
NYCERS $42.8B $55.5B -$4.4B $63.2B $62.9B
TRS $32.8B $41.0B -$8.8B $53.5B $55.1B
Police $25.5B $31.2B $4.5B $26.1B $38.1B

NYCERS - TRS - Police Pension Fund Benefits & Contributions: 2000 - 2012

System Benefits paid Employer Contributions
NYCERS $38.9B $15.6B
TRS $41.6B $18.6B
Police $20.2B $16.5B

NYCERS - TRS - Police Pension Fund Retiree & Members: 2011

System Retirees Vested Members Inactive Members Active Members
**** 2011 2011 2011 2011
NYCERS 135,468 8,914 18,969 182,021
TRS 74,064 8,932 10,938 109,636
Police 45,755 780 1,643 33,705

Note: Since July 1, 2009 Police and Fire pension benefits for new employees have been reduced to Tier 3 levels.

Note: Since April 1, 2012 all NYS pension benefits for new employees have been reduced by Chapter 18 of the Laws of 2012 (Tier 6).

Tuesday, September 4, 2012

Tier 6 - Disability Picture for NYC Police, Fire, Corrections, Sanitation, and Detective Investigators Members

Background

As of July 1, 2009 all new NYC police officers and fire fighters were covered by the Tier-3 pension benefit structure.

As of April 1, 2012 all new NYC police officers, fire fighters, correction officers, sanitation workers, and DA detective investigators are covered by the new Tier-6 pension benefit structure.

Tier 6 is an effort at pension benefit reform within New York State. It definitely cuts benefits. It is very expansive but I want to focus on one particular area, disability benefits for these Tier-6 workers.

With respect to these Tier 6 members, the new disability benefits are the old Tier 3 benefits put in place back in 1976, 37 years ago. The one difference is that these benefits are now based on compensation base equal to a five year average earnings as opposed to the old three year average.

The relevant sections of law in Tier 6/Tier 3 with respect to disability benefits are Sections 506 (Ordinary Disability) and 507 (Accident Disability) of the N.Y.S. Retirement &Social Security Law (RSSL).

As of 2009, only the NY Police Pension Fund (NYPPF) and the FDNY Pension Fund (FDNYPF) were involved with the Tier 3 throwback.

As of 2012, Tier 6/Tier 3 involves three pension systems, NYPPF, FDNYPF, and NYCERS. These three systems will have to resurrect the old Tier-3 procedures from the 1976 to 1983 time period. Of the three systems, only NYCERS administered Tier-3 benefits during that time. In 1976, the benefit structure for both NYPPF and FDNYPF remained in Tier 2.

In 1983, Tier 4 superseded Tier 3 state wide. One of the big reasons for the change over to Tier 4 was the administrative problems inherent in Tier 3, especially the Social Security coordination and its tie-in to disability determinations.

These lower Tier 6 disability benefit levels will reduce the number of members retiring for disability. The VSF benefit, for police, fire, and corrections, is only available to service retirees. This benefit along with the long term earnings limitations will push many members to continue working until their 22nd year even when they may qualify for a disability benefit. Members who are profoundly disabled, however, will have no choice but apply for whatever disability benefit they qualify for.

The FDNY will have a special management problem supervising two groups of employees, one with an accident disability benefit = 45% (new fire fighters) and another with a line of duty disability benefit = 75% for all EMS workers, even Tier 6 ones. This makes one think that there will definitely be future changes to this part of Tier 6.

Ordinary Disability Benefits (S.506)

The new Tier 6 ordinary disability benefit is equal to

  1. The greater of 33&1/3% of the five year average FAS or 2% times years of service up to 30 years
  2. Minus 50% of the primary SS disability benefit or at age 62, 50% of the primary SS retirement benefit (if ineligible for SS disability)
  3. Minus 100% of any Workers Compensation (WC) payable
  4. Plus full immediate escalation.

To be eligible the member must in active service and have at least 5 years of credited service. Continuous employment in active public service immediately prior to the date of membership in the appropriate retirement system shall also count towards the 5 year requirement. There is no age requirement for the ordinary disability benefit.

The member must be determined to by disabled by the Social Security Administration. If you are older than 65 or do not have a enough quarters to be eligible for SS disability, then the approppriate retirement system Medical Board will make the disability determination. The cause of the disability is not pertinent to granting the benefit.

Retirees receiving ordinary disability benefits are subject to post retirement income limitations. These limitations are the same as apply to the accident disability benefit. See below.

Note: Workers Compensation

NYC police officers, fire fighters, and sanitation workers are not covered by Workers Compensation. Therefore, there is no WC offset for their disability benefits.

Correction officers and DA detective investigations are, however, covered by the city's WC structure. This means there will be WC offsets to their disability benefits, if the member receives any WC payments.

It may be prudent for these members not to claim WC payments since the NYCERS benefit might be reduced to zero by the offset. This would put their city health insurance as retirees at risk. However the WC payments might be greater than the NYCERS benefit with or without the SS offset. The member needs to do some arithmetic to properly balance their benefit structure. I'm sure the relevant unions will provide advice.

A WC offset for an ordinary disability benefit is unusual and raises the issue of whether this benefit is exempt from federal income tax in the same way that accident disability benefits are. The NYC Law Department will have to resolve this issue.

Accident Disability Benefits (S.507)

The Tier-6 benefit is equal to

  1. 50% of the five year average FAS
  2. Minus 50% of the primary SS disability benefit or at age 62, 50% of the primary SS retirement benefit (if ineligible for SS disability)
  3. Minus 100% of any Workers Compensation payable.
  4. Plus immediate full escalation. See the escalation section below.

To be eligible the member must in active service. There is no two year filing limitation that existed in Tier-2. There is no service or age requirement for the accident disability benefit. It appears to me that police officers and fire fighters with 22 or more years of service are not eligible while NYCERS members are free of that limitation. This issue will not arise for many years and probably will be changed sometime in the future.

The member must be determined to by disabled either by the Social Security Administration or the appropriate pension Medical Board. In either case, the Medical Board must make a recommendation on whether the associated incident on the job caused the disability and the incident was an accident as per retirement system's legal definition of an accident. These causation and accident determinations are the same as in Tier-2.

The appropriate Board of Trustees makes the final determination on causation and accident. The final disability decision, however, rests with the Social Security Administration or the retirement system's Medical Board.

Members must waive any right to any statutory presumption (i.e. heart bill or lung bill) relating to the cause of the disability or eligibility for disability benefits. This does not apply to World Trade Center presumptions.

Retirees receiving accident disability benefits are subject to post retirement income limitations. See below.

Limitations on Income after Disability Retirement (S.507.d)

There are significant long term income limitations for disability retirees, both for accident and ordinary disability. I have included the exact wording from the statute (S.507.d) below because of the harshness of the restriction. If the retiree loses his/her SS disability benefit or engages in employment or business activity that would make him/her ineligible for SS disability benefits, then his/her retirement system disability benefits cease. This is not just a suspension. The only reprieve is being placed on a preferred eligible list.
S.507.d.

If a member shall cease to be eligible for primary social security benefits before attaining age sixty-five, or, if receipt of social security benefits is not a condition for disability benefits hereunder, shall engage in such employment or business activity as would render such member ineligible for social security disability benefits (had he or she otherwise been eligible), benefits hereunder shall cease.

Provided, however, if such member is otherwise eligible, the state civil service department or appropriate municipal commission shall place the name of such person, as a preferred eligible, on the appropriate eligible lists prepared by it for positions for which such person is stated to be qualified in a salary grade not exceeding that from which such person retired.

In such event, disability benefits shall be continued for such member until such member first shall be offered a position in public service at such salary grade.

Escalation (S.510)

Escalation is designed to provide some protection from the negative effects of inflation over time. A Tier-6 member who retires for either disability benefit is eligible every April 1 for a percentage increase in his/her benefit based on the lesser of 3% or the consumer price index (all items- US city averages as per US Bureau of Labor Statistics) as of the previous December 31.

In the event of a decrease in the CPI, the benefit is decreased by the lesser of 3% or the CPI. The benefit will not decrease below the original benefit.

The CPI changes are cumulative and are brought forward each year. So in effect, there are two running escalation indexes, the all 3% index and the all CPI index.

Escalation becomes payable: 1) For eligible service or vested benefits on April 1 following the 25th anniversary date. The first year is prorated on monthly basis. 2) For accident and ordinary disability and death benefits on April 1st following the date the benefits start. Again the first year is prorated.

Social Security Offset (S.511)

Calculating this offset can get very complicated. But roughly speaking the amount is computed at the time that the member retires from the appropriate retirement system and not at the member’s 62nd birthdate. It does not include any private sector income in computing the Social Security benefit. Only wages from employers who participate in NYS public pension plans are used. All other wages are set to zero. The offset will not include any increases to the Social Security benefit which occur after the member's retirement date. The complexity of this offset is one of the prime reasons that New York State moved to Tier 4 (the SS offset was dropped completely along with automatic escalation) in 1983.